Чому цифровий 0 не 0В в комп’ютерних системах?

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Я беру курс на проектування комп'ютерної системи, і мій професор сказав нам, що в цифрових системах звичайні напруги, що використовуються для позначення цифрового 0 і цифрового 1, змінювалися протягом багатьох років.

Мабуть, ще в 80-х роках 5 V використовували як "високий", а 1 V використовували для позначення "низького". Нині "високий" - 0,75 В, а "низький" - близько 0,23 В. Він додав, що найближчим часом ми можемо перейти до системи, де 0,4 В позначає високу, а 0,05 В - низьку.

Він стверджував, що цих значень стає все менше, щоб ми могли знизити енергоспоживання. Якщо це так, то чому ми намагаємося взагалі встановити "низький" на будь-яку позитивну напругу? Чому б ми просто не встановили його на справжнє напруга 0 В (нейтральне від ліній електропередач, я думаю)?

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— Аніруд Аджіт
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Я думаю, що найпростішим поясненням є те, що в проводах / слідах / "перемикачах" (транзисторах) існують паразитичні опори, тому ви ніколи не дійдете до 0В, тому вам потрібна певна маржа. У міру вдосконалення технологій націнки можуть збільшуватися.

— Веслі Лі

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Логіка ніколи не мала абсолютних одиничних значень для високих і низьких; TTL має абсолютний діапазон, а чистий CMOS має діапазон, визначений силовою рейкою.

— Пітер Сміт

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The low limit has never been 1v, checkout Andy's answer which states it's 0.4v or 0.8v depending on whether you're sending or receiving (talk accurately, listen forgivingly)

— Neil_UK

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The voltage you're quoting is the upper bound (threshold) for a logic zero.

— CramerTV

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There is no such thing as 0 V, only in a perfect world do we speak of it.

— Mast

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You are confusing the "ideal" value with the valid input range.

In usual logic, in ideal conditions, the logical zero would be precisely 0V. However, nothing is perfect in real world, and an electronic output has a certain tolerance. The real output voltage depends on the quality of wires, EMI noise, current it needs to supply etc. To accommodate these imperfections, the logic inputs treat a whole range of voltage as 0 (or 1). See the picture in Andy's answer.

What your lecturer probably meant by 0.75V is one of the points making the logical 0 range.

Note there is also an empty range between 0 and 1. If the input voltage falls here, the input circuit cannot guarantee proper operation, so this area is said to be forbidden.

— akwky
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You are getting confused. Look at TTL for example: -

A low input level is between 0 volts and some small value above 0 volts (0.8 volts for the case of TTL).

why do we take the trouble to set the 'low' to any positive voltage at all?

We take the trouble to ensure it is below a certain small value.

Picture from here.

— Andy aka
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To expand on this, the valid input voltage ranges are different for TTL signalling versus CMOS versus LVCMOS signalling. The reason for this is that TTL logic (and the compatible NMOS that followed it) had a lot more difficulty pulling up to the positive rail than down to ground. Modern CMOS logic can pull equally well either way, and it's easier to build a CMOS input stage symmetrically as well. A CMOS output will happily drive a TTL input, but you must use special TTL-compatible inputs with a TTL output.

— Chromatix

There's a good and detailed explanation on this subject from TI, here: ti.com/lit/an/scla011/scla011.pdf

— Chromatix

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It is impossible to produce true zero volts logic signalling. There must be some tolerance allowed for, as the circuitry is not infinitely perfect. Spending money trying to make it infinitely perfect would not be a good investment of design funds either. Digital circuitry has proliferated and advanced so fast because its uses huge numbers of copies of the very simple and tolerant circuits that are logic gates.

The binary states 1 and 0 are represented in digital logic circuits by logic high and logic low voltages respectively. The voltages representing logic high and logic low fall into pre-defined and pre-agreed ranges for the logic family in use.

The ability to work with voltages within these ranges is one of the primary advantages of digital logic circuitry - it's not a failing. Logic gate inputs can easily distinguish between logic high and logic low voltages. Logic gate outputs will produce valid logic high and low voltages. Small signal noise is removed as logic signals pass through gates. Each output is restoring the input signal to a good logic voltage.

With analogue circuits, it is between more difficult and practically impossible to distinguish noise from the signal of interest and to reject the noise entirely.

— TonyM
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Very sharp thresholds (without hysteresis) also mean ridiculously high gain amplifiers. Also known to be ridículously feedback and oscillation prone, drift prone, and generally nervous.

— rackandboneman

Also note that logic 1 and 0 can be usefully represented as low and high voltages respectively where it makes more sense for the circuit to do so. Indeed, signals like global resets are traditionally active low, and in the nmos era (A technology that was notoriously bad at pulling up) and to a lesser extent the TTL era (same issue) it was common to male IO active low just because that was the only way to actually get any current to flow.

— Dan Mills

Also of note is current-mode logic where logic values are defined in terms of current rather than voltage. This allows for faster switching and better noise tolerance in transmission (because of Kirchhoff's current law) at the cost of increased power usage (though Wikipedia claims that picoamp CML has been achieved, so that wouldn't be an issue either).

— John Dvorak

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Additionally to the points that is made by the other answers, there is the issue of parasitic capacities at high switching speeds (the usually ignored capacitance of wires and other components). Wires usually also have a slight resistance. (A very simplified model!)

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^{simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab}

Being an RC network, this results in an exponential falloff curve ( V ~ e^-kt ). If the receiver sets it threshold very low (near 0V) then it would have to wait a significant time for the output voltage drop enough to trigger the threshold. This time might seem insignificant, but for a device supposed to switch a million (billion even) times a second, this is a problem. A solution is to increase the "OFF" voltage, to avoid the long tail of the exponential function.

— antipattern
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Because nothing is perfect and you need to provide for this with a margin of error. Those numbers are thresholds. If the lowest possible voltage in your system is 0V and your threshold is 0V, where does that leave you if ALL your components and wiring aren't perfect conductors (i.e. always have some voltage drop) and noiseless in a noiseless environment? It leaves you with a system that can never output 0V reliably, if it can even do it at all.

— DKNguyen
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In a 2 rail system (usually chips powered with just a single positive voltage plus ground), whatever switch or device is pulling the output capacitance down to a low signal level has finite resistance, and thus can’t switch a signal wire to zero Volts in finite time. (Ignoring superconductors). So some realistic lesser voltage swing is chosen which meets performance requirements (switching speed vs. power requirements and noise generation, etc.)

This is in addition to margins needed to cover ground noise (different ground or “zero” voltage levels between the source and destination circuits), other noise sources, tolerances, and etc.

— hotpaw2
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Contrary to some responses here I'm pretty sure that there has been such a thing as a pure 0V low in the past. Relay logic! I don't think we want to go back to that though!

— user3042526
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Did your relays use superconductors? I don't think so.

— Elliot Alderson

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+1 because of unfair criticism. A pure 0V can be easily achieved. It can almost be achieved with a relay and simply with access to devices connected to negative supplies and feedback if desired. That it has been used as a required design value for digital communications does seem unlikely though but that should not be reason to down vote this answer.

— KalleMP

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@ElliotAlderson No I cannot, I specifically wrote that it was unlikely to exist which means I have no way to prove that it does. However can you prove that such design value has never been required? I didn't think so. Now go and give the new guy an up vote (to get it back to zero) so he does not get demoralised by nitpicking and go away and we loose one more bright (young) mind because of no good reason.

— KalleMP

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@ElliotAlderson I think that if you put a scope on a real relay coil, you would see the voltage go through zero on its way to a largeish negative value when the contacts open. But, it's unclear to me whether you're talking about a real circuit, or an ideal circuit. Do ideal contacts arc? If not, then the voltage must go to negative infinity. In any case case, after the contacts have opened and the arc is extinguished the resistance in the ideal circuit will be infinite. Not sure what that does to your time constant.

— Solomon Slow

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@SolomonSlow The transient behavior is real but it is easily modeled with an ideal circuit. The resistance that controls the behavior of the coil voltage after the contacts open is the resistance of the coil itself (giving you the benefit of the doubt that there are no leakage currents of any kind). It's a parallel RL circuit at that point, which requires infinite time for the inductor current to fall to exactly zero. Even in the practical world, there is some time when the voltage across the coil is non-zero but the relay's contacts become open...a logical '0' with non-zero voltage.

— Elliot Alderson